Monday, 10 November 2008

Hans Berliner – Reviewing The Go Versus Chess Quote:

“What's happening with chess is that it's gradually losing its place as the par excellence of intellectual activity. Smart people in search of a challenging board game might try a game called Go. -- former World Correspondence Chess Champion Hans Berliner, The New York Times, Feb 6, 2003

Quoted on the following sites:
www.usgo.org/teach/quotes.html
senseis.xmp.net/?CompareGoToChess
senseis.xmp.net/?GreatQuote
www.msgo.org/

As with any quote it is always worthwhile examining the original source:

New York Times - February 6, 2003
Queen, Captured by Mouse; More Chess Players Use Computers for Edge
By AMY HARMON

The first surprise to me is that the NYT article was written by Amy Harmon rather than Hans Berliner. Below is the context relevant section of the article (I recommend you read the full text ...link).
More to the point, some chess experts say, computers have taken some of the fun out of the game, designated the ''touchstone of the intellect'' by Goethe and seen by Benjamin Franklin as a metaphor for life.

While chess is still one of the few games where physical prowess and chance play no role (except in choosing who goes first), players can no longer rely solely on their singular intellects to succeed. They must also be much more adept at memorization and manipulating information.

''What's happening with chess is it's gradually losing its place as the par excellence intellectual activity,'' said Hans Berliner, a former world correspondence chess champion and professor emeritus of computer science at Carnegie Mellon. ''You don't have to be really good anymore to get good results. Chess is winding down.''

Mr. Berliner, whose work on computer chess helped lead to Deep Blue and its descendants, said smart people in search of a challenging board game might try a game called go, which is popular in Asia and played with black stones and white stones. The possible combinations are far greater than those in chess, which come to about 10 to the 40th power.

Because the nature of the game makes it much harder for a computer to calculate its way to success, no computer has come close to beating a human at go, and no human go player would dream of depending on a computer for advice -- at least for the moment.
As fan of both games I do not want to side with either of the two. It is fair to say, however, that Go is under-appreciated in the Western World and Chess is under-appreciated in East Asia.

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Tags: Benjamin Franklin - Chess - Deep Blue - Go - Goethe - Hans Berliner - NYT
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2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Chess is boring and Kids are not patience with Go (longer time needed to finish one game).

ALCHEssMIST said...

You can never call "Blitz Chess" or "Blitz Go" boring. Link